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kulay-ng-banaag · 2 years ago
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Yes! Thank you for the response to op on racebending! As a hetalia lore enthusiast, it always bothers me when people forget about the golde rule: nations (as in the species) are not their governments. It has literally been described multiple times in the series that even though a nation’s boss made them do something absolutely horrible, it does not mean that they wanted to or that they agreed with it. And im not denying that the nations have comitted warcrimes, it just bugs me when they treat them as if it was the nation’s idea and that they were in full control.
Like, I’m american, and i think its kind of messed up to say that indigenous americans are denying american colonialism by race bending him? Like op is only looking at white american history. Maybe just consider… and hear me out… there are multiple perspectives of american history from different races and ethnicities? 🤯 (crazy, right?)
Sorry if i got a bit intense here, i know op had good intentions and made lots of great points, but i feel like they could have done better.
Anyway, to sum it up, i agree with your points
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I'm not a fan either of the perspective that nations = governments and nothing more. If that was truly the case, then I can't believe being Filipino means I support Marcos/Duterte because they nabbed the voting majority to legitimately be granted positions of power.
I know it's the habit of racist whites to scrutinize a BIPOC's political compass or smth just from glancing at their physical features. It doesn't change that I do not want to normalize that ever. Neither, therefore, do I wanna project that on these bastard dirt children of ours.
Going back, if "racebending can be propaganda" was step 1 to OP building their argument, I'd dare say they missed out on giving step 2. 😔 I'm morbidly amused that all this discourse is centered on Hetalia, when the Countryhumans fandom literally fits the bill on making propaganda, intentional or not.
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heichoucangetit · 1 year ago
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I just think if you put unnecessary tags on a tumblr post or an Ao3 fic that you should get haunted Sadako-style. Just some dark entity that starts knocking figures off your shelves or flashing you visions of your favs dying until you delete that damn tag.
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tubbytarchia · 1 month ago
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?? do gem and oli engage in shipbait/fandom pandering? i’ve seen gem a little with impulse and skizz but other than that?
(CC talk) Yeah, but they don't really seek out to pander as much as they seek out to just be funny. It is still engagement bait, especially in Gem's case, but unlike Sosig, Gem doesn't namedrop ships for the sake of referencing them for her audience to ogle at and rather 1. pokes fun where she sees fit (her saying she ships Etho and Joel, asking Etho and Bdubs to make a baby - with their horses, the Skizzpulse stuff) or 2. riles people up purposefully (she has directly admitted this) but outside of main content (her saying several flirtatious/suggestive things about Pearl on streams, eg asking who in chat liked Pearl and including herself, which also comes off more as her trying to support Pearl in seeking that engagement due to it being on Pearl's stream exclusively)
Oli is just an effortlessly funny and charming guy. To me it feels much more genuine than pandering, eg when he was taking the trivia bot quiz and went like "Are Gem and Pearl in love btw?" or when he recently was trying to seem like a cool kid who's totally in touch by proclaiming that he knew ships, to then list treebark but not even know what two people treebark consists of. Cluelesness can be feigned and sure Oli plays his character up a bunch but he's having fun with it and to me anyway he comes off very sincere which automatically makes it forgivable and enjoyable when he does it. But to be fair I'd be more lenient on Sosig too if he had musical prowess to improv songs on the spot about his own ships the way Oli does
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youaremy-parkfilter · 2 months ago
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Y'all always make fun of trashkookers and say their ship has sunk... until Taehyung posts some shit deliberately to revive them🤣 (call me an anti if you'd like, but deep down we ALL know it's true). I wouldn't be so cocky if I were you lot.
Hi anon
"until taehyung posts some shit deliberately to revive them" yes, that's the point which I decided to respond to this anon.i get a lot of asks but mainly are from 🗑️🧑‍🍳 so I ignore.
Everyone knows what you said is ABSOLUTELY right. Yes everyone, their mom and servants know what you said is right. He posts dumb namedrop jungkook. And WE all have seen it absolutely when. When paris *cough* *cough* oh the weather is so cold here, i can't say anything 🫣. Yes used many more times! Lets rewind ⏪ and say he dumbed the "so pretty i could die" thing during AYS promotion era out of nowhere lol. Like anon said, he feed that cult a lot! They watch, they monitor and they knows what their audience need. And sadly majority of the fandom being 🗑️🧑‍🍳 s, its easy too ! :(
If you are asking me to believe the "proof" these trashes got, sorry I can't. I'm a human I won't be able to survive in a titanic under sea.
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This is how I feel it being in titanic!!
Like !? You stan , you claim them to be your fan, you claim that you'd die for BUT ! BUT you can't even recognise his voice 🙄 you can't even recognise their face in 4k
I'm just a human who use eyes to see things and brain to think not the opposite or other ways like 🗑️🧑‍🍳 do ! I'm sorry i have no ability to see the christmas trees as jungkook , wall paints as jungkook 😔🥺 i wish i was this shameless and useless one!
"Deep down we ALL know its true"
Who is this ALL anon? 😅 Feeding and deliberately posting shits are different my dear anon. I have never seen such a move from the side of Mr.Jeon. someone please tell him that he is also a part of this >.< Come on bro, debunk the shits that we are saying!!
Ha!!
So anon you tell me how we cannot be cocky when theories get debunk before its made up
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Oops !
I have no problem with taehyung and jungkook, which are my babies. But I do have problem with 🗑️🧑‍🍳 for being the most ridiculous trashes in this world.
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👆 the moment jungkook joined conversation, 🗑️🧑‍🍳 lost it ! You can't imagine my happiness when this happened right infront of my eyes ! They still believe that jikook don't see each other and were together only for '5 weeks' lol, idk from where they're coming up with these !
Desperate much !? Here is another 🗑️ praying to almighty, to seperate the 2 who already spend 436days together ( when i say together it doesn't means they're hip attached 24x7. They're in military not on a honeymoon. Thats the problem of YOUR mind set!! )
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Lol, anon if I'm surrounded by these people tell me how can I not be cocky !? Its so funny to see them going womp womp under every post with their narratives
Wanna see?
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Like said , what has AYS to do with music? Does it have an6to do with the category "favourite on screen" ? Yes ! Thats a travel variety show
Tell me how can I not be cocky 😭🙏 tell meee😭😭😭
You check their account and see a pinned taekook post , i was not surprised, you shouldn't be too ! Because DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING WITH A SENSE from 🗑️🧑‍🍳
If I post all the nonsense said by them , i might run out of space
This is a place where i share about jikook.
Throughout these many words i never tried to put my theory of jikook right ? Like "they are married from usa and have one kid from africa and other from japan and own a 10-story building and a pet called ..." No right ? Let me tell you a secret, i trust you don't tell anyone 🤫 i have no theories in oven about jikook 😔 i just believe what I see. Their bond, how it evolved, how comfortable THEY ARE with eachother. Their giggles, goofiness, their 'my shrimp my mura ham and gandhi ' moments. Just them. Let them be please . Traveling around the world even in their tight schedule just to create memories in thoughts of what if ... Traveling to their favorite spots just to eat ,relax and do whatever they want in thought of what if we didn't enli- . Checking timeline its obvious one can understand they planned AYS in the middle of enlistment processes. I'm not explaining that part here as everyone knows it! They wanted it to be together, the lottery they won ! Love is true ! Win is true !
No theories No manipulation , just a story of 27 year old took his 29 year old hyung as a companion to ms as a support system
We all are waiting for their return on june 11th , again nothing just the prayers for their health and happiness
-🍁
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damnfandomproblems · 8 days ago
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Fandom Problem #8401:
Remembering when, back in the early 2010s, it was almost unheard of for someone to have a public callout-type dni in their roleplay blog rules, like "don't interact with me if you follow or rp with (url/name)". People avoided them like the plague because it was seen as airing dirty laundry.
Fast forward to today. It seems like every other person at bare minimum has "dni if you're (long list of things, often including bullshit like "write or support genderbends")", paired with at least one url namedrop for whatever roleplayers are notorious, and apparently every other person is a pedo. And it's all considered expected, and no one bats an eye, and if you don't have a big psa like that in your rules, most people avoid you because it's "sus", I guess? I have a few buddies I regularly roleplay with and they're great, but it really frustrates me that we seem to be the exception and not the rule. It feels like the rpc has been completely taken over and warped.
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hopecorps · 8 months ago
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i wanna talk about The Ship War going on right now in the 911 fandom (largely on tiktok and twitter) and i'm not a bnf especially in this fandom (and i wouldn't want to be) but i'm kind of hoping people on both sides are willing to read this post anyway because i cannot be the only one completely turned off by it
i finished writing this so i wanna clarify: this is officially aimed at buddie shippers (i am one of you) because i genuinely want to have meaningful discussion and also i'm not exactly defending tommy here. but! i think if bucktommy shippers were interested in reading, there is stuff in here for you too
i have to split this up into sections which is annoying but i won't be able to make any sense without sections so. sorry
1. pre-tommy buddie shipping
so like a lot of people i knew about 911 and buddie entirely through tumblr osmosis, and there was a general attitude of confidence: buddie WILL become canon. if it doesn't... something something. i don't really know the season 6 finale was hard for a lot of you. and after watching, i do really understand why. but.
from an outside perspective, this fandom attitude was nothing like i'd ever really experienced before. i stopped watching supernatural around season 11, several years before gaycas, when confirmed bisexual dean was genuinely outside the realm of possibility.
i was a tjlc believer. i was an episode 4 conspiracist. i have been delusional about gays on my television screen before. so i was really apprehensive at the way buddie fans were moving. not only was buddie GOING to happen, but if it didn't it would be a failure of the network and the showrunners and the actors and it could have been the greatest love story ever told and shipping was not ENOUGH. it had to be canon in order to matter. shipping anything else was fruitless and offensive. this was what i was seeing. and i was like. well there's no way that's going to happen
and then season 7 started airing and there was this reignited hope
and then 7x4 aired.
2. the birth of bucktommy
so i started watching 911 after 7x4 aired. a lot of people did. i'll be honest i did genuinely think that eddie was out and gay and i was like "oh shit is it finally happening??" and then i realized it was some other guy and spend like 4 straight days tumblr deepdiving into it
like i said i was almost exclusively following buddie shippers so my consensus was like. buck and tommy are cute but it's obviously (TO ME) a steppingstone for buddie. after watching the entire show i do still feel that way.
here's the thing though: shipping isn't about what is going to be canon. i'm a marvel fan. my first fandom was fucking icarly, okay, my track record of shipping non-canon couples that actually end up together starts and ends with nbc sitcoms and even then barely. shipping to me is about character analysis and smooshing barbie dolls together with my friends. shipping to me is putting some guy in a blender and another guy performing frankenstein experiments on them
it doesn't matter to me actually that a ship isn't going to end up together, even if i like them. i'm not saying some bucktommy fans don't overstep certain boundaries (that i'll get into) but a FAIR BIT of them know this. a fair bit of them were buddie shippers and a fair bit of them still are. and there's a reason theyre put off
3. social media discourse
the first real piece of morality discourse came from tiktok. i won't namedrop this creator but if you're on tiktok you know who i'm talking about.
this person started the tiktok talking about something that i genuinely do agree with: fans who love tommy but hated all of buck's ex girlfriends should probably perform some self-reflection on the very real misogyny problem in 911 fandom and fandom in general. this i am 1000% behind. a call-in of sorts: hey guys! check yourselves! it is really easy to fall into misogyny especially with gay shipping. though i will argue that buddie shippers could stand to do the same thing (looking at you, people who write fanfic where ana flores is ableist for no reason)
they went on, however, to say that bucktommy shippers Must only like bucktommy because they are a gay ship, And Also Therefore, these people Must Be gay fetishists, as the only reason you would like bucktommy over buddie is because you just want to see men make out with each other. You People don't like gay shipping in the Correct way that i do, you like to gay ship in a nasty fetish way (only slightly exaggerating). you saw that buck and tommy kissed online and you watched the entire show just to watch men make out with each other which is Bad And Wrong.
aside from the fact that this person also literally started watching the show after 7x4 aired (and like i said so did a lot of people. one would think this is a morally neutral thing to do), this struck a nerve with me. this take (which was repeated ad nauseam by everyone in their circle) is just plainly irresponsible.
it is inappropriate to suggest that someone is like. morally reprehensible for *checking my notes* shipping a canon television couple. is tim minear a gay fetishist for writing the bucktommy kiss? is the average viewer a gay fetishist for going "oh i didn't see that coming! they seem like a nice couple"? is my mom a gay fetishist? are you calling my mom a gay fetishist??
this is an argument that i've seen happen in a billion different ways over the past decade and a half of being in fandom spaces by the way. are women allowed to read gay fanfiction? what about gay porn? what if they get off to it? are they allowed to write it themselves? what if they're not straight? what if they're not women? was casey mcquiston fetishizing gay men when they wrote red white and royal blue? is the romance genre allowed to exist with gay men and straight women in it? do you have to check everyone's gender or sexual identity at the login page for ao3 and tumblr dot com to determine if it is morally okay for them to participate in fandom at all?
and then there was the comparisons between bucktommy and buddie fic stat breakdowns: bucktommy's are writing more smut And That's Bad and buddie fans are writing stories with plot And That's Good.
it. is. irresponsible. it is oversimplifying. it is judgmental and above all else it is irrelevant. people could like bucktommy because they think they're hot or because they think theyre interesting or because buck realized he was bisexual or because they think tommy has potential as a character. it is a ship. creating a dichotomy where one ship is the morally good thing to ship and one ship is the morally bad thing to ship is irresponsible and not in the spirit of fandom.
morality and purity conversations in fandom are like. an entirely different can of worms to talk about and this is going to be long enough already. but bucktommy shippers shot back with the same energy:
if you don't like bucktommy then you are homophobic because tommy is gay
i did see quite a bit of this argument because a number of people that id been following did get into bucktommy and i do still follow and like these people
i covered most of my feelings about this type of argument above but to reiterate: it is possible to like different ships without making it a morality competition. it's disingenuous and annoying.
especially that brief stint where people were saying that the bucktommy shipname was a slur against gay men. you can just not like it. you can just not like it and have it end there. it's an ugly shipname but you don't have to make it a moral issue.
especially because then buddie shippers pulled out the trump card:
4. the tommy problem
because these people just watched the entire show in like four weeks (again, neutral statement, i did the same fucking thing) they remember tommy from hen and chimney begins. and. okay
i'm not about to be taken out of context here. i watched bp's video when it came out, i think what was said was wrong, i'm not about to say that being racist was like. cool or excusable 20 years ago. i think there is a discussion to be had here about this though. there's a reason i'm typing this out carefully:
i want to say firstly that there IS a conversation to be had about the social landscape in 2005 and especially pre-obama america for the purposes of a bunch of 20 years olds who were not alive or fully conscious yet. people told casually racist jokes (casual in that they are told casually without intent for violence, not that they are not violent. all racism is violence) and there were fewer social ramifications for those racist jokes in 2005. that does not make them Magically Not Racist. they were. it was not okay. it was, however, Extremely Common. does that make it okay? no.
i'm saying that largely because it seems to ME that tim or whoever wrote that particular episode wrote that joke to paint a picture of where the characters are in the story. chimney is not under bobby. he is not being treated with respect. he is 15 years in the past (from when the episode aired. whatever) it is different. it wasn't supposed to matter who said it
(it did matter and it does matter that it's tommy who said it by the way. because that's like. the universe of the show)
(though my theory - and i'm just being stupid for a sec indulge me it's 3am - is that tim and ryan both LOVE writing in guys named tommy. seriously i've been rewatching glee and when i watched 911 i noticed this too that there are so many characters that we never even meet named tommy. abby's ex for one. my theory is that tim wanted to bring in some guy named tommy for buck's awakening and he realized he already had one. lol.)
SECONDLY. sorry that was longwinded. secondly, i am a person who believes that people are capable of change. 20 years is a long time to grow. even as an adult. again, this does not excuse racism, but it is important anyway.
this is all theoretical but i want you to walk with me: it is possible for a 20-30 year old closeted gay white man with a homophobic captain pre-obama to pick up and not experience consequences for inappropriate comments and casual racism and even be seeking out a parent-like validation from someone who encourages it AND THEN, after 20 years wherein he realizes he's gay, comes out of the closet, i believe it is POSSIBLE for him to unpack his internalized racism, apologize, and grow as a person
obviously these are fictional characters but it is important to my fucking philosophy of life that people are capable of change and having empathy or understanding that in fictional characters is so fucking baseline.
it is important that we as a society can agree that someone's behavior, ideology, and/or biases can change. that like. that just HAS to be possible.
caveat #1 that does not mean that any people of color who are fans of the show have to like tommy or even forgive him (or even like. hen and chim lmao it's kind of clear to me that at least hen doesn't) and i am not going to tell them to
caveat #2 i also understand that there is no explicit acknowledgment of this on screen (i think this is because tim forgot which i find funny but like i said. it still matters that it's tommy regardless of intent) and because of that there technically is nothing To forgive
ALL OF THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
even if we are assuming that tommy has learned nothing and has not changed at all. the leap from "tommy is/was racist" to "shipping bucktommy or finding tommy interesting Makes You Racist" is heinous to me.
sometimes people like characters who are shitty people. some of you like tony stark. sorry
it's ridiculous to me because there are plenty of other reasons to dislike bucktommy that doesn't like. vilify random people on the internet. he's not even framed as a particularly good boyfriend! we don't even know if they're boyfriends, for one thing!
i've been complaining about buddie shippers for this entire time but i literally am one of you and that's what pisses me off. you threw the first blow in the morality competition and you are bigger - and you KNOW you are bigger because you are proud of the fact - and you are winning.
you are right about a lot of it: tommy isn't a good guy. there is an active racism problem in this fandom. there is a misogyny problem in this fandom. but by and large buddie shippers have been in the game longer and have much larger followings and there is nasty shit i'm seeing which brings me to
5. social media discourse 2 electric boogaloo: twitter edition
twitter is a cesspool in the best of times but i have seen some shit in the past two weeks that makes me never want to write fanfiction for this fandom or even interact with most of the fans ever again. and i'm serious
there is a big buddie fanfic writer who is like. beloved. if you read buddie fanfiction you've read their work for sure. they started writing bucktommy and buddietommy fics around april. and people are being so nasty about them on twitter it is actually fucking embarrassing.
AND LIKE. god. fandom etiquette is so simple.
when i first started reading buddie fanfic the first thing i noticed was how many fics are locked. and i was like "i wonder why that is"
just look at these tweets. i have kept the author's handle here uncensored but please be normal do not bother this person. i'm sure their ao3 comments are hell enough already
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what the fuck is your people's problem i'm serious
i'm like actually appalled. this is embarrassing. this isn't even the most embarrassing thing i've seen buddie stans do recently and it is NOT uncommon. it is not small accounts. you guys are the majority. these tweets have hundreds of likes.
i don't give a shit what this person was writing. i actually don't care. their fics are locked. they write for free.
to take someone's fic outside ao3 is considered bad fandom etiquette. to talk about an author where they don't have an account is generally considered bad fandom etiquette. to complain about fanfiction openly is bad fandom etiquette. i don't care if this is y'all's first fandom. in what world are you going to take to twitter and openly complain about someone writing fanfiction for a ship you don't like.
if i were them i would delete all of the buddie fics or never write buddie again i'm so serious. this is so ridiculous.
and this is sort of the nail in the coffin for me, seeing this tweet the other day:
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this tweet has over a thousand likes
this is a larger fandom issue as of recent with the use of like. mental health terms as insults but it actually fucking disgusts me!
i looked at mark's twitter. it's pretty clear to me that he's a troll/having fun/provoking people on purpose but on TOP of that his tweets get at most 35 likes. i checked and this tweet got 21 likes. and over a thousand likes calling him schizophrenic. 24 replies doubling down. 25 retweets. 47 quote tweets. 62 bookmarks. over a thousand likes.
and buddie shippers are the good guys
it is ridiculous to me that as a fandom buddie shippers have created a space where it is impossible to have a meaningful discussion about fandom misogyny, racism, of homophobia because everyone who disagrees with you is morally opposed to you, and yet it is this side of the fandom with enough traction and support to openly bully and mock these people that you have decided are morally reprehensible.
6. in conclusion i'm sorry i know no one read this
fandom in general post-covid has become less of a community based in sharing creativity and the love of something (and i know this intimately as a kpop stan lol). online spaces in general have become something i don't recognize or want to participate in. which sucks. i've been here for a long time.
i know there's not really any way for that group of like 5 or so tiktokers that complain about tommy ad nauseam to see this or even take it seriously. i know there's not any way for those people on twitter to magically understand fandom etiquette or just block the people they don't want to see.
everyone would be happier if they just. blocked and moved on. i know i would. and i have! in a lot of cases. there's a reason i blocked out the names on those tweets (note: i blocked mark's twitter handle. the person who screenshotted it so he wouldn't be notified and then called them schizophrenic did not. because they do not care) because it's not about THEM it's about the whole fucking thing.
and a lot of these people want to be mad. it's why they're so hung up on tommy. like i'm sorry if any bucktommy fan is still reading this but GOD TOMMY HAS BEEN ON SCREEN FOR LIKE TEN MINUTES TOTAL IN THE ENTIRE SHOW. HE DOESN'T EVEN MATTER. JUST ADMIT THIS IS ABOUT A SHIP WAR. IT ISN'T ABOUT HOW GOOD OF A PERSON YOU ARE OR ANYONE IS. IT'S JUST A SHIP WAR. and they want to be miserable. they want to sit in their little echochamber of morally upright big name fans and they want to provoke bucktommy fans into saying something shitty and they love it because they don't really fucking care about the show.
you know how i know? because tommy is the least important part of chimney begins. that is in the best 3 episodes of this entire television show and none of y'all have anything to say about it. because you're just as obsessed with tommy as they are.
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jayisgay · 9 months ago
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idk if this is just me but I kind of dislike the protocol fandom. It feels sometimes like they won’t let the show be the show and are always trying to analyze it through the lens of the Magnus archives. Which is understandable! They are, to some extent, connected. However I’m seeing more in the tags of people trying to sort episodes into fears and latching onto the appearances of tma characters, rather than actually focusing on the characters original to tmagp. And honestly, this is to some extent a gripe I have with the show itself: it won’t let itself be something other than the Magnus archives. For a show that is supposedly independent of tma, to the extent that you don’t have to have listened to tma to understand tmagp, it feels very reliant on established knowledge and characters from tma to carry the plot forward. I feel the show would be more interesting WITHOUT all of these ties to the original tma universe- like Celia’s whole deal (which I find very self-inserty the way she always is namedropping fears and stuff) and the Jonmartin mention in one of the recent episodes. I don’t know, it just gets on my nerves.
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lonelyroommp3 · 4 months ago
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ppl like you get so mad when you see others enjoying something you don't
i'm really over the cringe culture bullshit and rebranded bullying on this site and in 2025 i'm just gonna enjoy what i enjoy. gonna enjoy them even more out of spite this year i think.
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forgive me for lumping these two together because i'm uncharitably assuming, considering they appeared right back to back in my notifs, that they came from the same person. anyway
1) why am i suddenly getting daily anon hate over a post i made in november has someone put it in a youtube video or something. what is going on here seriously
2) do you sincerely think it is "bullying" "mockery" or "rebranded cringe culture" for me to make a genuinely quite flippant post on my personal blog that i use to share my personal opinion about things that will, to quote my post verbatim save for some added emphasis, "invariably get ME to click out of a fic". yes, it blew up and got 15k notes, but i think sometimes people on here forget that posts just do that sometimes and it's not an act of malicious intent on the part of the op, i didn't blaze it or beg for reblogs, i'm not telling people to send hate to people who write fic with characterisation i find disagreeable, i'm not even namedropping any particular fics or authors, i just shared a post about my personal preferences that people happened to agree with. that's the shape of it. and like i'm sorry but i'm not actually going to preemptively turn off reblogs on any vaguely fandom wanky post i make just in case two months down the line somebody reads me going "if a fic does this with its characterisation i probably won't read it because i find it jarring and ooc" as a cruel and unusual targeted hate campaign. like okay go on enjoying it out of spite, i still won't be reading it, whatever
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sleepanonymous · 1 year ago
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In light of recent events (that I fully missed and only caught the resolution of), I figured maybe I should drag this post out of my drafts instead of sitting on it like a coward.
TLDR: It’s important to respect the band, but it’s equally as important to respect your fellow fan’s wishes to not know Sleep Token’s identities.
(These two asks are from the previous drama, not what happened yesterday.)
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I’ve had those 2 anon asks sitting in my inbox from that drama last month with a Tumblr user revealing Sleep Token’s names in a rant post because the guys did not unmask during/after the Wembley ritual. I hate to bring this back up but I feel guilty because I pretty much tossed a barrel of toxic waste onto that existing dumpster fire and walked away as everything exploded. I’d gotten back to everyone who DMd me and sent non-anon asks, but couldn’t answer these two. I didn’t want to publicly put that tumblr blog on blast because I did not want it to look like I was trying to instigate a witch hunt.
I had planned on ignoring these two asks since I had no way to DM the anon users, but figured I may as well use this as an opportunity to talk about something else: Sleep Token’s identities and respecting the band member’s wishes to stay anonymous.
Nowadays it’s nearly impossible to simply look up “Sleep Token” and not have the guy’s names and/or faces spoiled. It’s not your fault if this has happened to you, and you aren’t a bad person or disrespecting the band. Even if you looked up the information on purpose, that doesn’t make you disrespectful. It’s human nature to be curious, especially in regards to things that you love.
It’s okay if you know the names and faces of the member’s of Sleep Token. It is not okay to pass this information along in Sleep Token fan spaces, even if you disagree with the anonymity aspect or believe it’s just a gimmick. It is okay to be curious about the members and search for information about them online (such as old projects, public accounts, etc). It is not okay to harass them or their friends/family online (and yes, commenting “Worship” is harassment outside of Sleep Token’s official accounts). It is okay if you don’t find Sleep Token attractive after seeing their faces. It is not okay to hate on them or bodyshame them, especially in Sleep Token fan spaces. It is okay if you recognize the guys out in public, such as outside a venue. It is not okay to draw attention to them, take unsolicited photos of them, or approach them with anything other than respect.
The point I’m trying to make is that you can only be responsible for yourself. I am in a space where I regularly use Sleep Token’s first names, and relentlessly censor myself outside of that space to make sure I don’t accidentally namedrop. If I, an adult with ADHD and a 50 second attention span, can do this, so can you. Know that if you are refraining from openly sharing/spreading information about the band’s identities, you are not only respecting the Sleep Token’s wishes to remain anonymous, but you are also respecting countless other fans that are trying to avoid that same information for their own reasons.
It’s also important to remember there are people on the other side of the screen before sending hate. It’s easy to forget that a living, thinking, feeling, human reading what you’re saying. The best way to deal with people online who give you strong negative emotions is to block them and forget they exist.
If you’ve read this far then I just want to say that you’re amazing and I love you (especially if you’re my mutual or follower). You’re all truly the best community in this fandom. I hope you’re having/had a fantastic day. Forehead kisses and Large Mug Morning Espressos™ for all of you.
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secret-unburnt-guitars · 1 year ago
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Hi i don't know much abt styx aside from general prog fandom osmosis but kwh has always intrigued me a little bit. Can you explain it in excruciating detail? (genuinely i'm not being sarcastic)
*cracks knuckles*
on february 22, 1983, styx released their eleventh studio album Kilroy Was Here. it was a concept album/rock opera though dennis deyoung likes to call it more of a "rock theatrical experience" in recent interviews. they even made a minifilm they played before the concert!!!! you can find it and the rest of caught in the act on youtube
it was made partially as a response to the rise of the satanic panic in the early-mid 1980s. people started to believe that rock music was evil and hiding satanic messages. the band was targeted by the public when they were accused in particular by the government of arkansas (i think?) of putting backwards messages (called backmasking) in their song Snowblind (the line "i try so hard to make it so" sounded like "satan moves through our voices" to some people. i own a copy of paradise theatre, that track in particular is damaged.).
and then dennis deyoung had a GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!
imagine a big ol lightbulb flashing over him while the rest of the members of styx watch in mortal dread
so basically the album follows a sort of loose and vague backstory that's somehow still solid enough for people to follow some sort of a plot in their head (which is slightly backed up by Caught In The Act, the designated KWH "concert," which i'll get to in a second). the basic synopsis (paraphrased but still in excruciating detail) is as such:
set in a futuristic chicago(?) rock and roll has been made illegal under code 672 (prohibits the playing and purveying of rock music). Dr. Everett Righteous (played by JY), who was responsible for this, is the leader of the majority for musical morality or the MMM for short. the MMM is one of the strongest organizations in this universe since you know. they literally convinced congress to criminalize an entire genre of music for the entire country. righteous also hosts a television show where he encourages the public to burn guitars and records in a huge bonfire during “nightly rallies”. he also projects himself onto a big triangle over the skyline which i think is fucking hilarious i haven’t been able to get over it
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Robert Orin Charles Kilroy (played by Dennis DeYoung, of course he's the title character), was a prolific rock musician at the time of the ban. he was thrown in prison for breaking the law and after being framed of murder. they accused him of bashing an MMM crusader's head in (which he obviously didn't do) after they raided one of his concerts at the paradise theatre. he then goes to rot in prison and is subjected to attempts of brainwashing by the dr. righteous show with the other “rock n’ roll misfits” they’ve arrested. it doesn’t work lol. i don't understand how it would work BECAUSE IT'S NEVER EXPLAINED
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the prison kilroy is rotting in is maintained/monitored by japanese import, mass produced robots dubbed the "robotos," hence the title track. ignore how racist they look, it was 1983, this is not my fault
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i mildly dislike them but it sucks how they’re essential to the plot ANYWAYS
here comes Jonathan Chance, (played by Tommy Shaw, albeit reluctantly) who is a rebel that is part of a underground resistance (that's only really mentioned once). with his friend, he breaks into some unknown area that is most likely a recording studio and hijacks the live television recording of the dr. righteous show. he proceeds to namedrop himself and then run off
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credit to @mccoys-killer-queen for the gifs!!
kilroy sees this happen, which inspires him to attempt to escape the prison. kilroy incapacitates a roboto that visits his prison cell and disguises himself as it so he can escape without being noticed (i do not like the way he does this)
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after kilroy escapes, he goes throughout the city and leaves messages for jonathan, leading him back to the paradise theater which is now the Dr. Righteous Museum for Rock Pathology
it's got a bunch of shitty animatronics that include people like jimi hendrix and elvis presley, but at the very back is an animatronic of kilroy repeatedly bashing in someone's head
this is my favorite part of the minifilm which i've basically explained sorry. you see like what you think is another roboto emerge from the shadows, and then it takes off its mask AND IT'S THE ACTUAL KILROY!!!
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(this is taken from the live show, the transition is so goddamn dope)
and then dennis deyoung prances around and has his little pick me theater main character moment and sings mr. roboto and dances and stuff it looks so stupid. the live version of mr. roboto is way funnier than the official music video i don't know. i posted it about here before but i love this part in particular
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so that's how kilroy and jonathan meet and that's basically the plot of one of styx's most popular songs!! sorry i gave kind of a play by play of the minifilm
now here's the fun part !!!! (unfinished lore/controversy)
unfortunately the reception of this album was less than satisfactory for most people back in '83, since KWH was way far away from the brand that styx had made for themselves in the 70s. they made art rock and prog, but this was just straight up synthpop. some people liked it though. i read somewhere in an article that it "alienated their male audience" and honestly if you're alienated by a little bit of gay pick me theater bs from your favorite band, that's a you problem
caught in the act was the designated "kilroy concert" that styx did sometime in 1983. the concert, however, doesn't give any. depth. to any additional explanations of multiple plot holes present in the story. as much as i love and cherish dennis deyoung he didn't do a very good job at writing this.
caught in the act felt more like a compromise than a show, seeing as the banter after the performance of mr. roboto was very bare? kilroy explains to jonathan that he was framed for murder, and then he goes in depth on the night it happened. "the crowd was totally psyched," he says, and then it goes to JY performing a guitar solo, which leads into the rest of the concert. the entire concert was portrayed as a flashback and gives no real backstory to any of the established characters. and then at the tail end of the concert they get "raided" by the MMM and you watch as an MMM officer murders one of righteous' own followers with kilroy's guitar. they cut back to kilroy and jonathan, they sing haven't we been before, and then kilroy hands jonathan this sick ass glowing guitar, then they perform the world's worst finale. the dance party ending of caught in the act. it sucks. it's horrible. i hate it. also there is no dennis deyoung in the kilroy was here universe lmfao
i'm still grateful for the concert though don't get me wrong!!! amazing concert
if the rest of styx didn't want to rip dennis deyoung apart for making them do this (i recently learned from a manager that DDY made them turn down an opportunity to perform at one of the largest concerts of the 80s, because he was like "but muh kilroy"), i believe songs off the album like High Time and Double Life would have been performed at Caught in the Act. both extremely lore-heavy songs, especially double life. i really wish they played double life. but c'est la vie, i guess.
literally everyone in the band hated dennis' guts so much while they were making this (justified, he was a stubborn asshole during production) but god was it worth it. for me at least. i imagine one of the conversations about production went like
JY: dennis have you considered that maybe this is a bad idea Dennis: i'm gonna make you the villain of the story if you don't shut the FUCK UP
i still think that JY had a little bit of fun though. he was hamming it tf up as dr. righteous i'm sorry you need to watch the mv's which you can find on youtube as well
but unfortunately tommy shaw wasn't having a good time at all, he literally quit on stage and stormed off and styx split for a while bc of this album i mean LOOK AT HIM HE'S SO PISSED OFF
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overall this album is both cheese AND corn, worst album i've ever listened to, and yet it's given me a purpose in life. i've written 7,000+ words in one document about this album just to try and fill in the blanks the lore has, it's got so many. it's a running joke on this blog, i really hope you check out the album, because i think it's wonderful and it's endearing regardless of the controversy, it's too late for me. save yourself
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TKK to JK: Are you gonna live with Taehyung?
Army to JM: Is JK next to you?
So a deluded tkk asks JK a personal weird line crossing question about if he is gonna live together with his bandmate as if that is their damn business and gets one hell of a "ain't no way you seriously asked me that dumb shit" look from JK in the process vs someone asking about JK being there with Jimin, since its common knowledge they are in the buddy system together and not a stretch to make since Jikook themselves said they're together every day in there. One is a question and one crosses major boundaries. Guess which one got all the outrage? I personally don't agree with asking about members, to any member, but it happens, but I am certainly not a fan of invasive questions, which is what the cult asked JK and not any of JK's fans or OT7's mad a big deal of it, but when it comes to Jimin, all hell breaks loose. We are not surprised.
Yeah 100%! I’m also against asking about other members during live streams/weverse comments but this was probably one of the least offense examples of that for the reasons you already mentioned. I don’t even think the person who asked was asking because of shipping.
And to your point, it’s because JK looked confused and weirded out by that ‘living together’ comment so Jikookers just thought it was funny* (& jkkrs are not threatened by tkks friendship in general) whereas Jikook actually are together right now and the knowledge of that has been causing tkkrs continuous mental damage for over a year now. Such a massive amount of the fandom (including JJKs/KTHs + so many ARMY ‘shooter’ accounts) are also tkkrs so they don’t care when tkkrs cross the line but they hold jkkrs to entirely different standards.
It’s genuinely appalling (and pathetic) how the most benign comment from Jimin can have them crashing out so hard. Anyone trying to spin Jimin’s (very basic) response as ‘fanservice’ or ‘feeding shippers’ also has chronically online shipper brainrot. If Jimin acknowledging that he’s with JK when they are literally enlisted together upsets someone they need to get offline and touch grass. The other members are constantly namedropping and interacting with each other but when it’s Jikook suddenly it’s fanservice**? Right.
It’s clear that Jikook enlisting together triggers tkkrs (all jkk antis) so bad because it’s the ultimate proof that Jikook are genuinely close and care about each other. It shows that Jimin is someone whom JK wants to support and wants to be supported by. It debunks any narrative that Jungkook is uncomfortable around Jimin, that he doesn’t like him or doesn’t want to be around him. It tells the exact opposite, actually. Jimin is clearly someone JK trusts tremendously, feels happy and safe with, someone he would choose to be around and go through such a difficult experience with. You can’t really argue otherwise and look sane.
The issue for serious tkkrs is that Jikook can’t even be friends for tkk as a ship to make sense (it’s seriously pathetic that their ship relies on obsessively lying about and trying to diminish the bond of another duo). I’m not surprised that they’ve been acting more unhinged after Jikook enlisted together. It doesn’t help that they’ve had almost no content for so long that they’ve become extra bored, restless and insecure. They try to cope by clinging to their ‘private couple’ narrative but the whole thing falls apart under an ounce of scrutiny. Deep down some of them must know that.
It’s actually unreal the way that Jimin manages to get under their skin despite being such a genuinely unproblematic person. He comes online and his words are so sweet, thoughtful and kind. He has consistently been one of the most supportive members and has physically shown up for every member during solo era. Namjoon recently said out of everyone he’s met since becoming an adult Jimin is the person he loves and trusts the most. Jimin was also the only member who physically showed up for THs solo promotions (twice) and posted about him several times on his IG too. Jimin barely comes online, doesn’t brag, doesn’t ask anything from fans. He’s so gracious, patient, and doesn’t take himself too seriously. He has also always treated JK especially well, which JK has acknowledged. And Taehyung has always had the most complimentary things to say about Jimin’s character too. All the members have.
I know all of that just pisses them off more because they want to have a justifiable reason to hate on him so they don’t experience all that cognitive dissonance when they’re being nasty. They try to make up all these lies so they don’t feel like bad people, to justify their irrational hatred and all their jealousy, but it never holds up to anyone sane. It’s just unreal to me to see how normalized this kind of hatred towards Jimin has become and the lack of outrage and response from such big portions of the fandom. That’s getting into a whole other rant though, so I’ll stop there. But such a simple comment from Jimin should never have triggered such a massive wave of hatred, but here we are once again.
I don’t want it to seem like I put all my energy there though. Hearing from Jimin after so long was beyond healing 😭. His comments were so cute, sweet, and funny. It’s genuinely so exciting to be his fan and to hear how passionate he is to return to his work, how much thought he’s already putting into it. I can’t wait for Jikook to finally be free, to see BTS active as a group again, to see the other enlisted members, to get more Jikook solo content. I hope we get a big solo stage from Jimin finally (if he wants). I won’t let those losers dim that excitement or the joy from Jimin's weverse spam, but man it’s really frustrating sometimes and occasionally genuinely worrying for his safety. I’m also just tired of not being able to enjoy Jimin content or Jikook content without having to deal with those psychopaths throwing tantrums. And you’re right, the double standards around it are just insane.
*JKs response was funny but a lot of jkkrs were also rightfully bothered by how weird and invasive the comment was. iirc all the comments on that live were strange and you could see how uncomfortable and weirded out JK was by the end of it. ngl sometimes I wish that BH would implement membership only for commenting on their lives.
**Even if it was fanservice (which it clearly isn’t) that’s not an excuse to act psychotic? I saw a “rational” tkkr trying to claim that BH pushing fanservice “harms” JM as if tkkrs lashing out in jealousy is somehow justifiable. That would still be weird as fuck and extraordinarily parasocial even in the scenario that tkk were in a “secret relationship” and Jikook were a “company ship”. Those are still two grown men with free will, tkkrs are not a part of their relationship, tkk also clearly consent to the content coming out? That kind of response from tkkrs would always be insane and unjustifiable and a product of their personal jealousy because they project onto tkks relationship. Just pointing this out because that was such a wild take I saw the other day & “rational” tkkrs are sometimes more insidious and just as irrational & ridiculous as the others. They just disguise it better.
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shayminlucario07 · 2 months ago
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XENOBLADE X DEFINITIVE EDITION HAS NEW CONTENT!
There has been confirmed to be a new, floating continent to explore, as well as two new Skell models, seemingly two new party members- one, a Qlurian like Celica, named Neilnail, who, due to her name, seemingly has connection to the Albus and Furvus Skell models that only appeared in Squad or Time Attack missions in the original game (She is also depicted alongside Cross seemingly facing off against them), and one a mysterious Skell pilot in an odd mask (Personally, I'm holding onto hope that Ga Jiarg, the Wrothian leader, will also be made a party member, because we only had two Photon Saber characters in the original with Yelv and Doug).
Nothing is known about this new continent, nor what it may mean for gameplay purposes, but I'm personally hoping it gives us either 1. A new superboss Ultrafauna, like Pharsis, the Everqueen or Telethia, the Endbringer, or 2. More lore around the existing Ultrafauna, such as giving us lore (possibly Qlurian) about the Yggraliths, or explaining what the hell Telethia the Endbringer is and why it's there at all because what in the XC1. (Personally, if we do get Telethia lore, I hope it explains why there aren't Telethia in XC3.) I would also happily accept getting another of whatever the hell Seraphic Ceratinia was.
Of the two new Skell models, one's name is currently unknown, while the other is Hraesvelg, which was in the original game's artbook as belonging to a character I will not say for spoiler reasons. We know its pilot is the mysterious masked pilot this time, but little else is known, beyond that its equipment cannot be changed, like the Ares models.
Most importantly, we will be getting multiple changes to Overdrive to make it more accessible- including a new "Quick Recast" mechanic, seemingly meter-based, that shortens (Or potentially resets?) cooldowns on arts while Overdrive is active- how this affects Secondary and Tertiary cooldowns is as yet unknown- as well as indicators of the Overdrive combos.
Finally, Follow Ball will now indicate the location of quest items, such as collectibles. Everyone say thank you XC1DE for this change.
Before I talk about story stuff, some final thoughts- if you never played Xenoblade X, whether because it wasn't connected to 1, 2, and 3 (At least, before Future Redeemed namedropped Earthlife Colonization Project and fcucking murdered me specifically the entire Xenoblade fandom), PLEASE give it a chance with this remaster! It is an amazing game, with delightful characters, a fantastic story that goes far harder into science fiction than any other game in the series- and even more so than any other Xenoblade game, the experience really is in the sidequests here. It also has a very fun and interesting spin on the MMO multiplayer format, and unlike the original release, that online multiplayer content hopefully won't be ruined by the worst netcode on the entire system! (Please)
We will be getting some sort of story continuation with regards to the final scene of the game. Explanation under the cut for spoiler purposes.
As we know from the original release, following the defeat of Luxaar in the Vita at the Lifehold Core in Chapter 12, Lao becomes a Chimera and serves as the final boss. And after the credits, we see Lao- conspicuously un-chimera'd- washed up on the shore of a beach, being approached by a mysterious figure in Grenada Medium armor known in the files and artbook as "The Black Knight". (The Black Knight is who the Hraesvelg Skell was attributed to in the artbook. Also worth noting is how his armor heavily resembles that of Malos in Xenoblade 2, especially with the glowing purple core that resembles Malos/Logos' violet Aegis core.) We also see Lao sitting up on this same beach, looking out at setting sun on the horizon, next to the standing, unhooded figure of- seemingly- The Black Knight, who notably has silver-or-gray hair (It may just be the lighting, but it seems to my eye to most resemble the color that Gray and Na'el's hair looks in-game in XC3, which may mean it's white. It's hard to say.)
Personally, I could not be more ecstatic for what this means for XCX's story. I've always found it severely underrated, because there is so much potential that was never fully realized. I was convinced for years that this remake would never happen, and now it's only a month away! I cannot express in words how excited I am.
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toscrollperchancetomeme · 10 months ago
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Is there a life after IwtV Season 2?
So, Interview with the Vampire Season 2 is over, you have already rewatched it a dozen times and don’t know what to do with yourself?
Here’s a list of suggestions!
Read the books
I might be biased because I have been a fan since the early 2000s, but they are genuinely worth a read. A lot of people struggle especially with the first book, which I understand – but you can absolutely skip it and start right away with The Vampire Lestat! Especially The Vampire Lestat and Queen of the Damned are a great read and they are what is coming up next in the show. A lot of the plot of QotD happens at the same time as The Vampire Lestat, so I expect that material from both books will come up in the next season.
If you have a brain that enjoys audio books, they are actually available for free on youtube (though the narrator pronounces Louis’ name wrong). The version on the commercial audio book platforms read by Simon Vance is better though, if that’s an option for you. :)
The books after that are very much a mixed bag, but they all have some great and some downright crazy stuff in them, because Anne Rice’s writing was pretty unhinged at times. It’s a ride, but imho one worth taking.
Watch reaction videos on YouTube
I think I have by now watched all reactions that are available. For me it really brings a lot of joy to relive the experience of a first-time watch by proxy. Some are frustrating because people talk over important dialogue, some hold genuine galaxy brain moments by people who know nothing of the material. I will not recommend anyone, because vibes vary for everyone, but I’m sure there’s a reactor out there that YOU will vibe with.
Watch other shows/movies with the actors
Did you know that “Talk Radio”, written by and starring Eric Bogosian is available in full on youtube? I haven’t watched it yet, but I hear it’s really good.
For Sam Reid, I can’t recommend “Lambs of God” highly enough, and I hear great things about The Newsreader, which I sadly can’t get my hands on at the moment. “Belle” is also a beautiful movie, but his part is rather small as far as I remember.
Then of course there’s Hotel Portofino for Assad (but I’m not yet that desperate).
I actually haven’t watched anything with Jacob Anderson except Game of Thrones, which I will NOT rewatch, so I’m happy for suggestions there!
Watch the movies that have been namedropped by Rolin Jones
Hedwig and the Angry Inch – a phenomenal movie and stage show in its own right. It’s fun, it’s beautiful, it’s queer as fuck, the music is excellent and it’s an absolute must-watch.
Rocky Horror Picture Show – honestly, if you have never seen this movie, what are you waiting for?
The Dirt – Rolin Jones has mentioned the book, but there was actually a pretty decent movie made about Mötley Crüe a few years ago, that I really enjoyed.
Also, I have seen Amadeus mentioned several times, I’m not sure if that came up in an interview but it’s an excellent movie and the parallels to the relationship between Lestat and Armand are definitely there.
Honorary mention: Fight Club, not because anyone has mentioned it but… the parallels warrant an essay that I might one day have to write. (Themes: Queerness of male on male violence, imaginary boyfriends, idealization of toxic masculinity)
Read the books from Rolin Jones' reading list
I have now spent 10 minutes googling for that interview where he lists the books he’s reading for Season 3, but can’t find it. Someone please drop it in the comments?
Learn French
Want to feel closer to your favorite actors? Why not go through the same hell as them and get bullied by the Duolingo owl while at it? ❤
Discord servers
I’m not active there right now, but I have found several fandom servers that seem like great communities.
Read Fanfic
Honestly the reason this is down here is because it’s so obvious. :)
Get creative
Write fanfic, draw fan art, roleplay, edit videos, make unhinged memes!
And always: Support the content creators!
Everytime I scroll the tag I see new creators entering the fandom and let me tell you, after almost 20 years of drought, I am overjoyed. Same goes for fic writers, youtube reactors and reviewers! Leave them a like, a comment or whatever is available on the platform they are using.
Edit:
Watch the musical!
I completely forgot! There’s a Lestat musical by Elton John. Yes, you read that right. This lovely YouTube account has full bootlegs for you to enjoy some camp broadway fun!
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I'm a diff anon, but:
"Okay, but I don't understand why this ended up with BTS being dragged into a mess that has nothing to do with them in the first place? This started with the lady from the coup, right?"
Yes. In short, HYBE ordered an audit on ADOR because they found proof that MHJ and a man planned to make ADOR a separate company, Mhj and the man talked with shareholders to try to get them to back them(ador) up so they can leave hybe. This is how it started and then later on a bunch of other stuff came out.. Reddit has master posts of this, you can find them if you want to read more about it
So after the news came out about the audit, she started responding to it, she claimed hybe copied newjeans to make Illit, she claimed that she was promised to debut hybe's first gg but they debuted le sserafim first instead, she implied that she was in a slave contract. So she namedropped 2 groups first. And then somehow some article reported that she went to a shaman to discuss BTS' enlistment and when they would go and so the shaman could make sure they really go? The last part is a bit confusing because idk how a shaman could make them go but yeah. And that's how BTS got into the picture. She later basically admitted this by rambling about how this shaman is just a friend of hers who just happens to be a shaman.
"Why did BTS end up being the bad guys again?"
Because nothing unites kpop fans more than hating on bts. BTS genuinely didn't do anything, kpop fans just started hating on them for no reason and they kept making tweets about "xy group disbanded because of hybe"
"It makes sense that BigHit decided to hire an external legal team instead of using HYBE's or even their own agency's."
In my understanding, they hired this external legal team or set up this law firm to deal with the hate campaign against Bts. There are a lot of conspiracy theories going around rn, about BTS/hybe being in a cult and K-pop fans being kpop fans and bringing up everything they can about bts' past. So I think this second legal team is just for the BTS issue so that the hybe legal team can fully focus on bringing mhj to court. Again, this is just how I interpreted it.
Hello, anon. Thanks you as well for providing a bit more context on everything that's going on. If you don't mind, I have a few things to comment on regarding what you said, and also, I have a couple of questions that I hope won't offend anyone:
1. Regarding the accusations made by that woman about copying NJ: why did she say that? I don't know much about that group, but a girl group in K-pop isn't something new, right? The concept isn’t that… new, I think? And their sound isn't so... unique? From what little I've heard and some comparisons I've seen. Is the new group exactly the same, or what? Does NJ have something unique that can be easily identifiable if someone copies it? And that’s why she said that?
2. She was promised that she would debut the company's first girl group: okay, they didn't do it, and? From what little or much I've read about what this woman has said, I've concluded that she's a tantrum-throwing and pretentious person who cries when she doesn't get what she wants. You know who she reminds me of? Veruca, the character from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
3. The shaman thing is complete madness and it’s probably the comedic contribution to all of this😭.
4. The obsession of Kpoppies with BTS should be studied. I can bet that not even the biggest stan in the fandom is as obsessed with them as Kpoppies are. If only they put as much effort into supporting their favorites as they do into hating BTS, they would help them rise above the mediocrity that many are in. At least in terms of sales, streaming, charts, etc., with the quality of content they put out, there's not much they can do.
5. Ahhhh, your explanation about the external legal team makes sense, but at the same time, I wonder if BigHit does have its own legal team, and if it doesn't, I wonder why.
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eowynstwin · 5 months ago
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if we're gonna be talking about myka again, I just need everyone who hardcore harrased Madi over this to know: you guys fell for someone lying about military service and when she faced the slightest bit of criticism over a very real pattern in the fandom, she pretended to kill herself. You went on a witch hunt in the name of someone who was lying to you from day fucking one. Go outside and touch grass.
I’d rather if we didn’t—I need to, because the few times I talked about it directly did not really solve how I feel about it. I feel a bit like people forgot that she did this specifically to me, because I criticized her. Yes, it affected many, many other people, and their feelings about the situation are valid and they deserve to express them, but I was her target, first and foremost. Sheheal made dozens of posts specifically going after me. Bunny and Ikea led a witch hunt after me.*
Because here’s the thing—I’m aware of at least one blog who has been dragging the Myka scheme around even all these months later. They’ve namedropped my old url (soapskneebrace) and referenced what happened to me several times now. But they have never, not once, contacted me directly about any of the shit Myka did following her initial suicide fakeout. In fact, the only time I can remember that blog speaking directly to me at all was to berate me for the post I made that started the clusterfuck in the first place.
That’s only a case study, but it’s exemplary of how it all played out. A lot of people talked about what happened, at the time and after, both to criticize and support me. And for the people who supported me, I am so grateful, don’t get me wrong. Early, Ceil, Lev, Lexi, Dee, and everyone else gave a voice to what I was feeling but was not safe to say aloud.
But at the time I had no voice. I couldn’t speak to what I felt myself. I spent a week watching everything happen, unable to say anything, because adding my voice to the discourse would have only encouraged my own harassment. I could only wonder if I would EVER have a safe place in the fandom again. I wasn’t sure I would, so I decided to leave.
And then, when I decided to come back, it seemed like everyone wanted to move on, and I still couldn’t say anything. Everyone else was done with it, but I had barely figured out how to process it even a month later. Everyone else got to talk about it. I didn’t. I couldn’t explore what the hell I felt after being gaslit by an entire community over something that didn’t even fucking happen, because negativity is the death of engagement, and I wanted to be here, back among people who supported me.
So, to your sentiment—yes, you’re right. What she did was fucking crazy, and the mobbing that followed beggars belief. And I’m not trying to attack you either, anon, I appreciate your sentiments very much.
I just want to be clear—I am not trying to stir the pot, or start up the discourse again. I just need to talk about it because I never really did, and it’s been eating me up for months.
*Not at all to say that racism didn’t play a huge part in the situation. But I believe it had more to do with my breaking white conformity to point out a fellow white person’s bad behavior, rather than Myka’s desire to escape accountability. After all, she trolled later on about Gaz, using various sock puppets, to court the exact same attention.
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wolpatinga · 3 months ago
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I notice you tag some posts with solar eclipse, but it doesn't seem to be about the cosmic phenomenon. what's the thorough line there? :3
oh gosh... response below the cut
i believe this is what we in ye olden days would call an OTP? i ship the freudian concept of the id and the super ego
there's a concept album i like that tells the story of an id, ego, and super ego caught in a timeloop. its an endless fight between them, the id and super ego both trying to be the only influence on the ego. one of them gets very damaged, they call a temporary truce, they kiss and make up, and then one of them does something to ruin the peace and the cycle begins anew
in that album, the id is given moon imagery, the super ego the sun, and the ego the earth. and of course a solar eclipse has, from the perspective of the earth, the moon dominating the sun /shrug/
anyways. because its an album, the designs for what those three look like are really up in the air. i like the idea that all of them had different kinds of wings (cicada wings, bat wings, corvid wings) at some point, but war is war and hence the dewinging connection. these guys brutalize each other with guns and tridents and yet they're all trapped in the same consciousness forever. they're all they've got
i'm kinda disconnected from the rest of that album's fandom, and i've gotten swept up in my own AU, which i call JUPF. i can't say i recommend it or the album. also i'm hesitant to namedrop the album because apparently its problematic to ship these guys? i don't want to get into it
like if a consciousness is fractured enough that its formed characters with entirely different personalities, i don't think the materiality of "they're all in the same body" matters at that point. perhaps it's because of the lessons i was taught as a kid that we're all fragments of god's consciousness, caught in our own temporary struggle before resting and reintigrating. in that case, all shipping would be problematic. all romance would be problematic. dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria /reference
so anyways. my solar eclipse tag is anything that reminds me of that ship. a couple deeply in love but inflicting terrible violence on one another. removing one's wings. anything about the freudian subconscious. there are two wolves inside you and they're both gay
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